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Se pare ca activitatea pl. africane e destul de intensa.a activat microfalii subcrustrale din albania generand seisme de aproape 4 gr la 2 km!!;iar la noi seismul de azi . Sunt curios daca pana la urma nu reactioneaza si vrancea cu un seism de 6-6,5 eventual un dublet:harhar:
 
Marmureanu a spus ca din 2006 suntem sub influenta placii ANATOLIENE nu AFRICANE!!!!!El a spus ca studiile spun ca placa Africana nu a dat in 300 de ani seisme peste 7 !
Deci nu placa Africana ne sperie pe noi!
 
pai Dodo eu nu am zis asa ceva .am spus ca activitatea pl. africane poate un seism de 6-6.5 in vrancea si nu de 7+.deci nu avem de ce sa ne speriem .chiar daca dominanta e activit. generata de pl. indiana nu inseamna ca cea africana nu poate avea un cuvant de spus:harhar:
poate avea loc un seism moderat:biggrin:
 
Eu subscriu la parerea lui sorinsov : seism cu Ms>=6.7 in 2007!!:ack:
 
Deci Alty, maine pe la 5 ne vedem in acelasi loc...:tongue::wink: O barfim copios si pe matusa Dodo...:ack::harhar::hypocrite::harhar::harhar:
 
Andy are dreptate. Daca majoritatea cutremurelor vrancene sunt declansate acum de microplaca Marii Negre (avand plane de faliere orientate NE-SV), nu inseamna ca lipsesc complet si cutremurele din celalalt tip (cu plan de faliere NV-SE). Deci atunci cand predomina un anumit tip de cutremure, generate de un stress dominant, aceasta nu implica faptul ca nu ar fi posibile, uneori, si cutremure din celalalt tip. Cazul din 1990 a fost edificator in acest sens. Seismul din 30 mai 1990 a avut, se pare, plan de faliere NE-SV sau, dupa ultimele revizuiri, N-S, in timp ce seismul din 31 mai 1990 a fost inversat ca orientare a planului de faliere. Deci sunt posibile si astfel de situatii. Insa de interes va ramane acel cutremur de magnitudine peste 6,7 ! Un cutremur mai slab, eventual inaintea acelui, de magnitudine 6-6,5 grade, nu e important si trece asa cum vine, fara probleme. Doar pasaretul dodo se sperie si falfaie din aripioare...:ack::harhar::hypocrite:
Interesant e si faptul ca tipul de mecanism de focar este cel care determina in buna masura forma generala a izoseistelor seismelor vrancene. De pilda, s-a constatat ca multe dintre cutremurele vrancene cu plan de faliere NV-SE (deci declansate de placa africana), asa cum au fost, se pare, seismele din 25 mai 1912 si 31 mai 1990, de exemplu, prezinta alungiri ale izoseistelor spre Dobrogea. Deci, se pare ca atunci cand stressul dominant este cel generat de placa africana, cutremurele vrancene afecteaza mai intens Dobrogea !!! Un alt exemplu este seismul moderat din 28 aprilie 1999 (M=5,7 si adancime h=151 km), care a avut plan de faliere NV-SE, deci a fost declansat de placa africana; acest cutremur a avut izoseiste usor mai alungite spre Dobrogea, ceea ce este foarte interesant !
 
Deci Alty, maine pe la 5 ne vedem in acelasi loc...:tongue::wink: O barfim copios si pe matusa Dodo...:ack::harhar::hypocrite::harhar::harhar:

Buna dimineata-de Luni, ca asta e...suntem in perioada sarbatorilor (de unde apare si obligatia participarii la diverse manifestari de profil:whistling:)...Asa sa fie, o \"disecam\" lingvistic pe matusa/nasica DODO:harhar::tongue:
 
intr-adevar, etimologia cuvantului DODO e una interesanta...cica nu e lamurita complet...:ack::wink::hypocrite:
 
Daca era dupa Tzara....cred ca nici pene nu-i las...Dodo-doda-dado-dada-dido-dodi-.....vai ce iese:harhar::ack::harhar::hypocrite:
 
The Mauritius Dodo (Raphus cucullatus; Didus ineptus is an obsolete name), more commonly just dodo, was a metre-high (three-foot) flightless bird from the islands of Mauritius, New Zealand and Micronesian. The dodo, which has been extinct since the mid-late 17th century, lived on fruit and nested on the ground. It is commonly used as an example of extinction, due to its alliterative powers with the word \'dead\' (e.g. \'Dead as a dodo\'.)

Systematics and evolution
The dodo is a close relative of modern pigeons and doves. mtDNA cytochrome b and 12S rRNA sequences (Shapiro et al. 2002) analysis suggests that the dodo\'s ancestors diverged from those of its closest known relative, the Rodrigues Solitaire (which is also extinct), around the Paleogene-Neogene boundary[1]. As the Mascarenes are of volcanic origin and less than 10 million years old, both birds\' ancestors remained most likely capable of flight for considerable time after their lineages\' separation. The same study has been interpreted[2] to show that the Southeast Asian Nicobar Pigeon is the closest living relative of the dodo and the Rodrigues Solitaire.

However, the proposed phylogeny is rather questionable as regards the relationships of other taxa (compare with Johnson & Clayton 2000) and must therefore be considered hypothetical pending further research; considering biogeographical data, it is very likely to be erroneous. All that can be presently said with any certainty is that the ancestors of the didine birds were pigeons from Southeast Asia or the Wallacea, which agrees with the origin of most of the Mascarenes\' birds. Whether the dodo and Rodrigues Solitaire were actually closest to the Nicobar Pigeon among the living birds, or whether they are closer to other groups of the same radiation such as Ducula, Treron or Goura pigeons is not clear at the moment.

For long, the dodo and the Rodrigues Solitaire (collectively termed \"didines\") were placed in a family of their own, the Raphidae. This was due to the fact that the dispute about their relationships in regards to other groups of birds (such as rails) took a long time to resolve. As of recently, it appears more warranted to include the didines as a subfamily Raphinae in the Columbidae.

The supposed \"White Dodo\" is based on misinterpreted reports of the Réunion Sacred Ibis and paintings of apparently albinistic dodos; a higher frequency of albinos is known to occur occasionally in island species (see also Lord Howe Swamphen).


[edit] Morphology and flightlessness

This dodo image is based on a 1626 painting by Roelant Savery, done from a stuffed specimen - note that it has two left feet and that the bird is obese from captivity.In October 2005, part of the Mare aux Songes, the most important site of dodo remains, was excavated by an international team of researchers. Many remains were found, including bones from birds of various stages of maturity[3], and several bones obviously belonging to the skeleton of one individual bird and preserved in natural position[4]. These findings were made public in December 2005 in the Naturalis in Leiden. Before this, few associated dodo specimens were known, most of the material consisting of isolated and scattered bones. Dublin\'s Natural History Museum and the Oxford University Museum of Natural History, among others, have a specimen assembled from these disassociated remains. A Dodo egg is on display at the East London museum in South Africa. The most intact remains, also at the Oxford University Museum of Natural History, are one individual\'s partly skeletal foot and head which contain the only known soft tissue remains of the species.

These are the remains of the last known stuffed dodo, the decaying remnants of which, at that time in Oxford\'s Ashmolean Museum, were ordered to be burned by the museum\'s curator or director in 1755[4]. The foot and head were salvaged from this specimen, and are currently on display. Nevertheless, from artists\' renditions we know that the Dodo had greyish plumage, a 23-centimetre (9-inch) bill with a hooked point, very small wings, stout yellow legs, and a tuft of curly feathers high on its rear end. Dodos were very large birds, weighing about 23 kg (50 pounds). The sternum was insufficient to support flight; these ground-bound birds evolved to take advantage of an island ecosystem with no predators.

The traditional image of the dodo is of a fat, clumsy bird, but this view has been challenged in recent times. The general opinion of scientists today[citation needed] is that the old drawings showed overfed captive specimens. As Mauritius has marked dry and wet seasons, the dodo probably fattened itself on ripe fruits at the end of the wet season to live through the dry season where food was scarce; contemporary reports speak of the birds\' \"greedy\" appetite. Thus, in captivity, with food readily available, the birds would become overfed very easily.


[edit] Diet
The tambalacoque, also known as the \"dodo tree\", was hypothesized by Stanley Temple (1977) to have been eaten from by Dodos, and only by passing through the digestive tract of the dodo could the seeds germinate; he claimed that the tambalacocque was now nearly extinct due to the dodo\'s disappearance. He force-fed seventeen tambalacoque fruits to wild turkeys and three germinated. Temple did not try to germinate any seeds from control fruits not fed to turkeys so the effect of feeding fruits to turkeys was unclear. Temple also overlooked reports on tambalacoque seed germination by Hill (1941) and King (1946), who found the seeds germinated, albeit rarely, without abrading (Witmer & Cheke 1991).


[edit] Dodos and humans

[edit] Etymology
The etymology of the word dodo is unclear. It may be related to dodaars (\"plump-arse\"), the Dutch name of the Little Grebe. The connection may have been made because of similar feathers of the hind end or because both animals were ungainly. However, the Dutch are also known to have called the bird the walghvogel (\"loathsome bird\") in reference to its taste. This last name was used for the first time in the journal of vice-admiral Wybrand van Warwijck who visited and named the island Mauritius in 1598. Dodo or Dodaerse is recorded in captain Willem van West-Zanen\'s journal four years later (Staub 1996), but it is unclear whether he was the first one to use this name.

Before the Dutch, the Portuguese had already visited the island in 1507, but did not settle permanently. According to Encarta Dictionary and Chambers Dictionary of Etymology, \"dodo\" comes from Portuguese doudo (currently usually doido) meaning \"fool\" or \"crazy\"[4]. However, the present Portuguese name for the bird, dodô, is of English origin. The Portuguese word doudo or doido may itself be a loanword from Old English (cf. English \"dolt\").

Yet another possibility is \"that \'dodo\' was an onomatopoeic approximation of the bird\'s own call, a two-note pigeony sound like \'doo-doo\'.\" (Quammen 1996)


[edit] Dodos and culture

Coat of arms of MauritiusMain article: Dodos in popular culture
The Dodo rampant appears on the Coat of arms of Mauritius[5]. A smiling dodo is the symbol of the Brasseries de Bourbon, a popular brewer on Réunion Island.

Its significance as one of the best-known extinct animals and its singular appearance has led to its use in literature and popular culture to symbolize a concept or object that will or has become out of date, expressed in the expression \"dead as a dodo\"[6] [7].

It is also used by environmental organizations that promote the protection of endangered species, such as the Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust and the Jersey Zoological Park, founded by Gerald Durrell. Recently, the dodo is set as an example of the documentary Flock of Dodos highlighting the \"evolution-intelligent design circus\".

Also, to call someone a \"dodo\", is to imply that they are stupid. Again playing of the stereotype of the lack of intelligence of the Dodo.

As with many animals evolving in isolation from significant predators, the dodo was entirely fearless of people, and this, in combination with its flightlessness, made it easy prey[8]. But journals are full of reports regarding the bad taste and tough meat of the dodo, while other local species such as the Red Rail were praised for their taste. However, when humans first arrived on Mauritius, they also brought with them other animals that had not existed on the island before, including dogs, pigs, cats, rats and Crab-eating Macaques, which plundered the dodo nests, while humans destroyed the forests where the birds made their homes[5]; currently, the impact these animals - especially the pigs and macaques - had on the dodo population is considered to have been more severe than that of hunting. The 2005 expedition\'s finds are apparently of animals killed by a flash flood; such mass mortalities would have further jeopardized an already extinction-prone species.[9]

Although there are scattered reports of mass killings of dodos for provisioning of ships, archaeological investigations have hitherto found scant evidence of human predation on these birds. Some bones of at least two dodos were found in caves at Baie du Cap which were used as shelters by fugitive slaves and convicts in the 17th century, but due to their isolation in high, broken terrain were not easily accessible to dodos naturally (Janoo 2005). By 1755, Cossigny reports that the number of refugees and settlers which cut down the inland forest was so high that the well-flighted Mauritius Blue Pigeon was rapidly declining all over the island[citation needed].

There is some controversy surrounding the extinction date of the dodo. Roberts & Solow (2003) state that \"the extinction of the Dodo is commonly dated to the last confirmed sighting in 1662, reported by shipwrecked mariner Volkert Evertsz\" (Evertszoon), but many other sources suggest the more conjectural date 1681. Roberts & Solow point out that because the sighting prior to 1662 was in 1638, the Dodo was likely already very rare by the 1660s, and that thus a disputed report from 1674 cannot be dismissed off-hand. Statistical analysis of the hunting records of Issac Johannes Lamotius, carried out by Julian Hume and coworkers[citation needed], give a new estimated extinction date of 1693, with a 95% confidence interval of 1688 to 1715. Considering more circumstantial evidence such as travellers\' reports and the lack of good reports after 1689 (Janoo 2005), it is likely that the dodo became extinct before 1700; thus, the last Dodo was killed a mere century after the species\' discovery in 1598[verification needed].

Few took particular notice of the extinct bird; by the early 19th century it seemed altogether too strange a creature, and was believed by many to be a myth. With the discovery of the first batch of dodo bones in the Mare aux Songes and the reports written about them by George Clarke, government schoolmaster at Mahébourg, from 1865 on[citation needed], interest in the bird was rekindled. In the same year in which Clarke started to publish his reports, the newly-vindicated bird was featured as a character in Lewis Carroll\'s Alice\'s Adventures in Wonderland. With the popularity of the book, the Dodo became a well-known and easily recognizable icon of extinction.
 
Eu subscriu la parerea lui sorinsov : seism cu Ms>=6.7 in 2007!!:ack:
Ramane de vazut cand va veni si mai ales CAT DE MARE va fi ! In orice caz, situatia de acum e comparabila in mare masura cu ce s-a observat in perioada august 1985-august 1986. Doar ca atunci GAP-ul seismic era intre 130-145 km adancime, acum e intre 110-145 km adancime. Asa ca e interesant sa vedem ce va fi...:hypocrite::harhar::harhar: Nu-i asa, Dodo ?? :tongue::harhar::tongue:
 
Iat-o si pe Dodo...:ack::harhar::hypocrite::harhar::harhar::harhar::tongue:
 
Alty: eu plec pe la 4 fara un sfert de la servici (incerc si mai devreme), asa ca in jur de 5 ajung acolo...:tongue::wink::tongue:
Dodo, teme-te....:ack::biggrin::hypocrite::harhar::harhar:
 
:ack:dodo e dodo nu cocolinatus dodi dodolontz si tot asa.
nu o sa va aduca nimic mos craciun pentru ca ma persecutati:ack:
 
:ack:dodo e dodo nu cocolinatus dodi dodolontz si tot asa.
nu o sa va aduca nimic mos craciun pentru ca ma persecutati:ack:

Pana si Tzara s-ar ineca de ras:harhar::ack::harhar::hypocrite::harhar:
 
:ack:stiu eu ca sunteti invidiosi pentru ca voi nu sunteti unikat. ati vrea voi sa fiti dodo dar nu se poate:harhar:
 
Pai da, ca o taiem pe Dodo de Ignat...:ack::harhar::hypocrite: Si asa arata ca o CLOSKA dolofana, cu cioc incovoiat :harhar::harhar::tongue: O zburatacim un pic prin poiata, si apoi ajunge la cuptor...:tongue::harhar:
 
:harhar:Am o alta propunere...s-o preparam dupa Ignat, imbunatatim meniul de Sf. Vasile:harhar: sau mai bine de Sf. Ion?:tongue:...o ciorba de \"ciocanele\" de DODO cum ar fi?...Si-i punem ciocul la loc de cinste....Daca la masaj cardiac extern nu se precepe, poate face un \"masaj\" pentru o \"bila\" obosita de prea multe bunatati de Craciun...:ack::harhar::hypocrite: Continui..didi, dida, dada, deda, dade, dode, dedo....Pana si cei care au descoperit-o i-au dat diferite intelesuri la numele acestei \"minunate creaturi\":harhar::harhar::harhar:
 
Neatza Alty...Ai citit materialul postat anterior (ieri) despre Dodo ? :harhar::wink: E interesant...:ack::biggrin::hypocrite:
 
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